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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2009, 05:35:07 pm »
That's perfectly understandable and probably a much easier way to ease into the vegetarian path (if you do go back to it).

I'm lucky that I live alone - but often when I eat meat it's cos of family meals, etc. So I understand what you are talking about.
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2009, 08:02:29 pm »
I had a tiny bit of sausage today, but really didn't enjoy it and feel a bit sick now

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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #92 on: May 28, 2009, 08:29:02 pm »
Try something like chicken or a white fish - not so rich. Hope you feel better soon.
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2009, 02:28:22 pm »
One thing I want to check - many vegetarian and vegan recipes use Tofu. I've heard a lot of bad things about Tofu and when googling found more:
http://www.healthiertalk.com/why-tofu-wrecks-your-brain-0246
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=208811

If you don't want to read - the main things they mention are:
For just a brief look at what’s really going on, consider that numerous studies have found that soy products can actually:

    * · Increase thyroid damage, especially in women
    * · Increase the risk of breast cancer in women, brain damage in both sexes, and cause abnormalities in infants
    * · Contribute to thyroid disorders, especially in women
    * · Promote kidney stones
    * · Weaken your immune system
    * · Cause severe, potentially fatal food allergies

Despite these findings, many people still want to believe the hype, thinking that these studies must somehow be wrong. But the content of soy itself should be a clue. For example, non-fermented soy products contain:

    * · Phytoestrogens (isoflavones) genistein and daidzein, which mimic and sometimes block the hormone estrogen
    * · Phytates, which block your body's uptake of minerals
    * · Enzyme Inhibitors, which hinder protein digestion
    * · Haemaggluttin, which causes red blood cells to clump together and inhibits oxygen take-up and growth
    * · High amounts of omega-6 fat, which is pro-inflammatory

One of the most disturbing ill effects of soy has to do with its phytoestrogens, which can mimic the effects of the female hormone estrogen. These phytoestrogens have been found to have adverse effects on various human tissues, and drinking just two glasses of soy milk daily for one month has enough of the chemical to alter a woman’s menstrual cycle.

The FDA regulates estrogen-containing products, however no warnings exist on soy.

What are your thoughts on this?

On one hand I'm finding people who say it's the healthiest meal option on the planet and on the other hand I find all these posts about how dangerous it is. I'm at the point where I'm nervous to try it and don't know what to believe.
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #94 on: June 09, 2009, 03:19:38 pm »
Well, the way I look at it is that the japanese eat huge amounts of soy and tofu products, and before they discovered McDonalds , were considered the healthiest peoples in the world, with one of the lowest cancer rates.

Having said that, I think everything in moderation.

I also think that Id rather have soy than meat, with the growth hormones etc. I do think the  health risks are greater.
But then i despise tofu, and the only soy product i eat is natures choice soy mince, which is GM free
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #95 on: June 09, 2009, 03:22:57 pm »
Thanx Rowan - I'll try the natures choice soy mince and only use it occasionally. And of course I use soy sauce when making stir fry (wouldn't taste right without it).
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #96 on: June 09, 2009, 03:31:13 pm »
I'll try the natures choice soy mince
Let me know if you find it anywhere, cause I couldn't find it. Our Dischem had a huge Nature's choice range, but none of the soy mince

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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #97 on: June 09, 2009, 03:34:25 pm »
Will do so (hopefully someone has got it locally).
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #98 on: June 09, 2009, 03:53:47 pm »
Has anyone ever tried Tempeh???

Any idea where Id get it?
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2009, 04:04:41 pm »
Sorry Rowan - never tried it and no clue where to get it. Although maybe a health shop would have it.
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2010, 02:46:16 pm »
well it turns out im heading towards the vegitarian route and not by choice.

i dont eat red meat, dont like chicken on the bone, cant stand fish and even pork has lost its taste.... oh well
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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #101 on: March 26, 2010, 02:56:47 pm »
Although I gave up on the completely vegetarian idea, my family and I now all eat less meat. We now eat meat (meaning red meat, chicken, fish etc) about twice,  or occasionally three times a week only. We did this for two reasons:
1) Its more healthy
2) The price of meat is getting totally ridiculous

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Re: Going vegetarian (probably only temporarily though)
« Reply #102 on: March 26, 2010, 03:22:16 pm »
It's good that you are eating healthier. And hopefully your family will learn to enjoy their veggies.
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